indyanguy
03-14 12:28 PM
I agree porting to EB2 will be much faster.
Can we use experience gained with the current employer while porting from EB3 to EB2?
Can we use experience gained with the current employer while porting from EB3 to EB2?
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05-18 08:59 AM
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RDWilson2
03-28 09:01 AM
[QUOTE=eb3_nepa]Guys pls lets keep these contorversial discussions out of here. Yes it is a valid point that H4s shud be allowed to work. However we cannot compare the US immigration system to the Australian one. They are 2 very different systems and the Blunt truth is, if you like the Australian system better go there :)
For openers, let me be totally honest. I am a IT worker who has been and seen others laid off due to the ability of employers to raise the specifications as to what was required for an IT job to the point that foreign workers with PhD's could be hired for less and US workers laid off, so I have a bit of a bias involved here with H-1b visas and L-1 visas.
That said, I would also like to second the statement quoted above and slightly expand it. Here in Texas, there is a statement usually made as one sits down to a table to play cards, "House rules." That means that, by sitting down at the table, you are implicitly agreeing to abide by the rules as established by that particular house. By obtaining a visa from the US government, you have _explicitly_ agreed to abide by the rules set by the US government. To claim that they are somehow "unfair" or "discriminatory", especially after you have agreed to them, implies, IMHO, that you had no intention of abiding by them when you accepted the visa.
During my career, I have investigated opportunities to work in a few other countries and have consistently found that they had significant barriers to a US citizen coming into the country to "take jobs from their citizens". While I might have enjoyed working, for instance, in the UK or Australia, I also accepted that their governments had the right to set their own "house rules". I guess, though, it may be too much to ask to expect similar consideration for the US government's right to set _its_ own "house rules," no matter how quirky they may seem to others.
As for the comparison of which visa holders' spouses/dependents can or cannot work here, I would ask the unasked question, "Why not allign these variances in the visas in the OTHER direction?" (I.e., why not simply change things so that NO spouse or dependent who obtained their visa based upon a primary visa holder is permitted a work-visa?) I realize this is probably not a popular position in this forum but, if for no other reason than being the "Devil's Advocate", perhaps it should be raised and considered. :)
For openers, let me be totally honest. I am a IT worker who has been and seen others laid off due to the ability of employers to raise the specifications as to what was required for an IT job to the point that foreign workers with PhD's could be hired for less and US workers laid off, so I have a bit of a bias involved here with H-1b visas and L-1 visas.
That said, I would also like to second the statement quoted above and slightly expand it. Here in Texas, there is a statement usually made as one sits down to a table to play cards, "House rules." That means that, by sitting down at the table, you are implicitly agreeing to abide by the rules as established by that particular house. By obtaining a visa from the US government, you have _explicitly_ agreed to abide by the rules set by the US government. To claim that they are somehow "unfair" or "discriminatory", especially after you have agreed to them, implies, IMHO, that you had no intention of abiding by them when you accepted the visa.
During my career, I have investigated opportunities to work in a few other countries and have consistently found that they had significant barriers to a US citizen coming into the country to "take jobs from their citizens". While I might have enjoyed working, for instance, in the UK or Australia, I also accepted that their governments had the right to set their own "house rules". I guess, though, it may be too much to ask to expect similar consideration for the US government's right to set _its_ own "house rules," no matter how quirky they may seem to others.
As for the comparison of which visa holders' spouses/dependents can or cannot work here, I would ask the unasked question, "Why not allign these variances in the visas in the OTHER direction?" (I.e., why not simply change things so that NO spouse or dependent who obtained their visa based upon a primary visa holder is permitted a work-visa?) I realize this is probably not a popular position in this forum but, if for no other reason than being the "Devil's Advocate", perhaps it should be raised and considered. :)
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BharatPremi
07-05 11:01 AM
This is pathetic and hysterical at the same time. I cannot believe this. :D
After giving all b..t answers she was asking me Do you need any other help sir? And I was like.. Ya... Just b..t down and I will show you what USCIS just did on July 2nd to us. We still can not sit properly :)
After giving all b..t answers she was asking me Do you need any other help sir? And I was like.. Ya... Just b..t down and I will show you what USCIS just did on July 2nd to us. We still can not sit properly :)
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Green_Always
09-18 10:06 AM
Only god knows what processes, rules and regulations they follow. I am glad that i am maintaining H1B status with my I-485 and never used EAD.
Its just so disturbing that you are at the mercy of USCIS who didn't know anything about how to look and process the application.
when you use AC21 it means you used EAD right ?
How can you use AC21 and still be on H1 ? could you give us more info on this pls.
Its just so disturbing that you are at the mercy of USCIS who didn't know anything about how to look and process the application.
when you use AC21 it means you used EAD right ?
How can you use AC21 and still be on H1 ? could you give us more info on this pls.
kcforgc
05-17 01:44 PM
easy to use.. Just sent email.
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debabratn
07-06 06:00 PM
Just called USCIS and told her that My application was mailed on Jun 28th and it got delivered on July 02. I also told her that my PD is May 2003 (hence i'm eligible to file in June)..
She told me that since i mailed it in June and this Notice goes into effect in July 02 my application WILL NOT be rejected... She asked me to wait for receipt notice :)
GOING CRAZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I guess I am little late on this post but I thought I would share what I got from the USCIS Call Center.
My application reached on July 2nd. When I asked the representative about the fate of my application, first she said I should be fine. Then, I asked about the updated July VB and she put me on hold for 2-3 mins. She came back and told me that my application would be rejected and sent back in 15 days. When I told her that my application was received before DOS released the update and technically my application was received by USCIS when the bulletin was still current, she said that would depend on the descretion of that USCIS office.....funny but that's what she said. Again, she said that I could reapply in Oct and they will process the application then. But when I asked whether she was sure that VB will be current in Oct, she said USCIS doesn't know that.
So, the bottom line is.....there is no point in calling USCIS and asking them about the current fiasco as they themselves are unsure. You can still call them and you might hear something different but equally confusing.
She told me that since i mailed it in June and this Notice goes into effect in July 02 my application WILL NOT be rejected... She asked me to wait for receipt notice :)
GOING CRAZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I guess I am little late on this post but I thought I would share what I got from the USCIS Call Center.
My application reached on July 2nd. When I asked the representative about the fate of my application, first she said I should be fine. Then, I asked about the updated July VB and she put me on hold for 2-3 mins. She came back and told me that my application would be rejected and sent back in 15 days. When I told her that my application was received before DOS released the update and technically my application was received by USCIS when the bulletin was still current, she said that would depend on the descretion of that USCIS office.....funny but that's what she said. Again, she said that I could reapply in Oct and they will process the application then. But when I asked whether she was sure that VB will be current in Oct, she said USCIS doesn't know that.
So, the bottom line is.....there is no point in calling USCIS and asking them about the current fiasco as they themselves are unsure. You can still call them and you might hear something different but equally confusing.
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ilikekilo
07-18 05:54 PM
People were very happy with the last USCIS announcement but we all forgot about pain of people who are stuck in years of backlog. Though some of those unfortunate may have used harsh or improper language, but they had all the right to express their feelings. We all talk about Gandhian philosophy, but we need to be more tolerant. Before we ask to ban anyone from our forum, please try to put yourself in their shoes.
Our fight is far from over, we should all fight for for in-justice made to people who are trapped in the bureaucracy.
banning people is not the solution to the problem...live and let live...reasonbly
Our fight is far from over, we should all fight for for in-justice made to people who are trapped in the bureaucracy.
banning people is not the solution to the problem...live and let live...reasonbly
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sanju
04-10 01:28 AM
Can we all just "grow up" and get along ? I think only then we have "one voice"
sorry buddy, that's too much to ask from this group of educated illiterates, who talk of king and know that someone with the name chanakya existed in the past, but don't understand the concept of "growing up".
Every morning I get up, go to work, and logon to these forums every now and then. And everyday I see someone venting out at the only set of folks who are actually trying to do something about our issues. We know for fact that there is no other group who is working to fix green card backlog. But almost everyone who visits these forums never miss a chance to throw things at folks trying to do something.
If it was me, I would said - screw you educated illiterates because you don't deserve anything.
But hey, who am I to say this to the elites with highly blotted ego.
For few days I saw a thread asking this group to do something about the aged out kids of legal immigrants. I saw that thread for over a week and was tempted to support that initiative. And then, 3-4 days back, I saw a request for media interview from anyone who is facing "aged out" issue. And you know how may people showed up for the media interview, ZERO. There was not a soul on this forum willing to speak up for their own issues, but some of the folks in that thread wouldn't stop blaming others for not doing enough. How do I know all this, because I read those posts.
So in the end, we want someone to spoon feed us, do baby siting over us, while we continue to vomit and throw-up on that group of people every few hours. Yes, your question is legitimate - Can we all just "grow up"???? NO
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sorry buddy, that's too much to ask from this group of educated illiterates, who talk of king and know that someone with the name chanakya existed in the past, but don't understand the concept of "growing up".
Every morning I get up, go to work, and logon to these forums every now and then. And everyday I see someone venting out at the only set of folks who are actually trying to do something about our issues. We know for fact that there is no other group who is working to fix green card backlog. But almost everyone who visits these forums never miss a chance to throw things at folks trying to do something.
If it was me, I would said - screw you educated illiterates because you don't deserve anything.
But hey, who am I to say this to the elites with highly blotted ego.
For few days I saw a thread asking this group to do something about the aged out kids of legal immigrants. I saw that thread for over a week and was tempted to support that initiative. And then, 3-4 days back, I saw a request for media interview from anyone who is facing "aged out" issue. And you know how may people showed up for the media interview, ZERO. There was not a soul on this forum willing to speak up for their own issues, but some of the folks in that thread wouldn't stop blaming others for not doing enough. How do I know all this, because I read those posts.
So in the end, we want someone to spoon feed us, do baby siting over us, while we continue to vomit and throw-up on that group of people every few hours. Yes, your question is legitimate - Can we all just "grow up"???? NO
.
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irock
07-14 01:08 PM
I'm also EB2, BEC, PD Aug-2004. Still waiting from my GC.
Are we assuming that all the BEC (Backlog Elimination Center) EB2's have already gotten their GCs..?
Are we assuming that all the BEC (Backlog Elimination Center) EB2's have already gotten their GCs..?
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walking_dude
09-04 04:32 PM
TOP 5 Excuses
1) Participating in the rally may jeopardize my position
Completely baseless. Rally is being organized after due permission from authorities. Further more IV designated volunteers will be there to ensure it's conducted smoothly. We will not be doing anything that provokes Americans like carrying our National Flags or incendiary slogans and dishonoring of American flags as seen during the rallies of 'undocumented aliens'. We will only be carrying IV approved banners which will not contain anything offensive.
Freedom of Speech/Expression and right to petition are constitutionally guaranteed rights, even to non-citizens. No one can use that against you. No one deport you for participating in a peaceful rally. All of us are highly educated people who don't have a propensity to indulge in violence and/or property damage witnessed during other protests.
2) Rallies are bad. Bad things may happen at a Rally
Perception is a result of our experience with so-called 'Rallies' back home and some here that turn violent. The primary reason for such lawlessness being the nature of participants - uneducated and/or unemployed anti-social elements. Also the political nature of such rallies, conducted by the opposition to inconvenience the incumbent government.
IV rally will be peaceful, as the participants are highly educated, well-employed people with families. Also IV is conducting the rally to petition the government to change rules and not to bring down/change the government.
If you need a precedent, we have the Flower protests and SJ rally , both conducted peacefully in a professional manner. In fact a cop even expressed admiration for the way IV protesters conducted themselves, orderly and peacefully.
3) People who do rallies are good-for-nothings who don't have a better thing to do. I might become an object of ridicule if I participate in one and people find about it. People might think I'm crazy.
Far from truth. Everyone's gainfully employed people just like you. We aren't different from anyone else, except that we have decided to fight for our common cause based on the understanding that strength lies in unity and numbers.
People ridiculing others is as old human habit as Columbus himself. Many ridiculed Columbus when he set sail for India. If he had backtracked, there wouldn't be America and we wouldn't be here.
If fighting for what's right is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. If standing upto fight for my career and my family is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. However, only a little more than people who expect to recieve GC in 2 years, without anybody doing anything to change the situation.
4) There is no reason for the Rally. The situation will remedy itself. In the recent past people have received GC in 2-4 years and so shall I. ( Do-Nothings)
Harking back to good ol' science textbooks, let me remind you of Newton's First law of motion - 'Every body [ EB immigrants] will continue in a state of rest or uniform motion [ retrogression] unless acted upon by an external force [IV actions] to change it'. Newton understood it centuries ago. We need to understand it now.
Situation was different in the recent past as thousands were caught hopelessly in BECs. There was no FBI check. No I-140 backlogs. No 485 frontlogs and backlogs. There weren't 300,000 to 500,000 applications pending for AOS.
5) Rally will not succeed. Even if does succeed, my non-participation will not make a difference.
Numbers make all the difference, in a democracy. When a politician sees a crowd, the thing that runs foremost in his mind is 'Votes'. More the merrier (the reason why undocumented aliens being 12 million are treated on priority basis compared to less numerical EB migrants).
When a senator/congressman is faced with a thousand 'Future American Citizens' ( so called 'Americans in Waiting') - he has two choices antagonize by ignoring them or help them achieve their goals. Any sane politician will opt for the latter, when those thousand future votes could mean the difference between re-election vs. defeat.
That's why it's important to show up in good numbers. If we approach them individually, they may and for all purposes will ignore us. But if we show up in good numbers, we will make them rethink their position and encourage to take more pro-immigrant positions.
Though, it might seem one or two absentees don't make much of a difference, in real life it does. These ones and twos are the ones that add upto to great numbers. If we miss out on these ones and twos, we might never reach the numbers we intend to. So it's very important for every one of us to participate.
1) Participating in the rally may jeopardize my position
Completely baseless. Rally is being organized after due permission from authorities. Further more IV designated volunteers will be there to ensure it's conducted smoothly. We will not be doing anything that provokes Americans like carrying our National Flags or incendiary slogans and dishonoring of American flags as seen during the rallies of 'undocumented aliens'. We will only be carrying IV approved banners which will not contain anything offensive.
Freedom of Speech/Expression and right to petition are constitutionally guaranteed rights, even to non-citizens. No one can use that against you. No one deport you for participating in a peaceful rally. All of us are highly educated people who don't have a propensity to indulge in violence and/or property damage witnessed during other protests.
2) Rallies are bad. Bad things may happen at a Rally
Perception is a result of our experience with so-called 'Rallies' back home and some here that turn violent. The primary reason for such lawlessness being the nature of participants - uneducated and/or unemployed anti-social elements. Also the political nature of such rallies, conducted by the opposition to inconvenience the incumbent government.
IV rally will be peaceful, as the participants are highly educated, well-employed people with families. Also IV is conducting the rally to petition the government to change rules and not to bring down/change the government.
If you need a precedent, we have the Flower protests and SJ rally , both conducted peacefully in a professional manner. In fact a cop even expressed admiration for the way IV protesters conducted themselves, orderly and peacefully.
3) People who do rallies are good-for-nothings who don't have a better thing to do. I might become an object of ridicule if I participate in one and people find about it. People might think I'm crazy.
Far from truth. Everyone's gainfully employed people just like you. We aren't different from anyone else, except that we have decided to fight for our common cause based on the understanding that strength lies in unity and numbers.
People ridiculing others is as old human habit as Columbus himself. Many ridiculed Columbus when he set sail for India. If he had backtracked, there wouldn't be America and we wouldn't be here.
If fighting for what's right is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. If standing upto fight for my career and my family is crazy, yes, I'm crazy. However, only a little more than people who expect to recieve GC in 2 years, without anybody doing anything to change the situation.
4) There is no reason for the Rally. The situation will remedy itself. In the recent past people have received GC in 2-4 years and so shall I. ( Do-Nothings)
Harking back to good ol' science textbooks, let me remind you of Newton's First law of motion - 'Every body [ EB immigrants] will continue in a state of rest or uniform motion [ retrogression] unless acted upon by an external force [IV actions] to change it'. Newton understood it centuries ago. We need to understand it now.
Situation was different in the recent past as thousands were caught hopelessly in BECs. There was no FBI check. No I-140 backlogs. No 485 frontlogs and backlogs. There weren't 300,000 to 500,000 applications pending for AOS.
5) Rally will not succeed. Even if does succeed, my non-participation will not make a difference.
Numbers make all the difference, in a democracy. When a politician sees a crowd, the thing that runs foremost in his mind is 'Votes'. More the merrier (the reason why undocumented aliens being 12 million are treated on priority basis compared to less numerical EB migrants).
When a senator/congressman is faced with a thousand 'Future American Citizens' ( so called 'Americans in Waiting') - he has two choices antagonize by ignoring them or help them achieve their goals. Any sane politician will opt for the latter, when those thousand future votes could mean the difference between re-election vs. defeat.
That's why it's important to show up in good numbers. If we approach them individually, they may and for all purposes will ignore us. But if we show up in good numbers, we will make them rethink their position and encourage to take more pro-immigrant positions.
Though, it might seem one or two absentees don't make much of a difference, in real life it does. These ones and twos are the ones that add upto to great numbers. If we miss out on these ones and twos, we might never reach the numbers we intend to. So it's very important for every one of us to participate.
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chiru229
06-10 03:10 PM
Given that the dates have moved to Oct 05, for someone with a PD in Mar 2005 how long will it take from now to get the actual card.
-Chiru
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paskal
09-22 10:27 AM
I did not go to DC because i did not want to get the green card this way.I grew upwatching aunts,uncles coming from USA bearing gifts.I grew up watching cousins go for USA for higher studies.It used to be so special. Now its become so cheap. Now you guys have literally taken it to the streets. There's no difference between those illegal immigrants and us. This H1visa has ruined it for really smart students who come here on F1 with full scholarship.
This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it nothing more than a whore business.
My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
i'm not in software either and i have the equivalent of a doctorate and another masters and multiple specialty certifications. if you feel this way you do...you are venting your frustration about body shoppers on us- fine. your prerogative. but why are you here at all? this organization exists to end retrogression. who is "you"? as far as i can see you signed up to be a member.
by going to DC i felt like i did something to get attention to the problem. the resolution will come from congress not us. it is our right to petition, and we did. if we do not create awareness, nobody will help- with retrogression or with exploitative body shoppers. please direct your bitterness where it belongs- not on those who try to help.
each person here is a member and if they participate they do it for themselves. you too are here and lurk around reading the forums for yourself. there is vested interest in it, so maybe you are no better?
we did not cheapen green cards, you are cheapening us, people like you who are struggling through the process and in the process you cheapen yourself too. if you do not want your green card like this, it's simple, do not lurk around here.
chandu, a word of suggestion for you. we are all selfish. this is all driven by our individual needs. some just consider all this beneath them. they carp and whine about anything and everything. their thin skins burn at the slightest suggestion that everyone needs to contribute their time, effort and money. they live here on the forum and scream free speech at every turn, but will neither contribute to keep the "free speech" going, nor advocate free speech for those that urge them to get more active. they talk of aunts and uncles and fantasize about a time long gone as you can see. they talk about not wanting a green card "desperately' or not at all, yet they live on tracking threads. i do not believe their problem is selfishness. it is denial and hypocrisy. but why do you bother? those who show their character as strong and have self respect will succeed in other ways too. those who cower under their aunts and uncles will stay exactly there.
iv has grown and prospered. we have a seat in this discussion. we are talking directly to congress, the administration and uscis. does that guarantee success? nope. but you and me, we sure as hell tried and will always have that with us. and it sure is a great feeling...:cool:
This software industry and these cheap bodyshopping companies made it nothing more than a whore business.
My heart is broken. I dont care anymore.thats why i did not come to DC.
i'm not in software either and i have the equivalent of a doctorate and another masters and multiple specialty certifications. if you feel this way you do...you are venting your frustration about body shoppers on us- fine. your prerogative. but why are you here at all? this organization exists to end retrogression. who is "you"? as far as i can see you signed up to be a member.
by going to DC i felt like i did something to get attention to the problem. the resolution will come from congress not us. it is our right to petition, and we did. if we do not create awareness, nobody will help- with retrogression or with exploitative body shoppers. please direct your bitterness where it belongs- not on those who try to help.
each person here is a member and if they participate they do it for themselves. you too are here and lurk around reading the forums for yourself. there is vested interest in it, so maybe you are no better?
we did not cheapen green cards, you are cheapening us, people like you who are struggling through the process and in the process you cheapen yourself too. if you do not want your green card like this, it's simple, do not lurk around here.
chandu, a word of suggestion for you. we are all selfish. this is all driven by our individual needs. some just consider all this beneath them. they carp and whine about anything and everything. their thin skins burn at the slightest suggestion that everyone needs to contribute their time, effort and money. they live here on the forum and scream free speech at every turn, but will neither contribute to keep the "free speech" going, nor advocate free speech for those that urge them to get more active. they talk of aunts and uncles and fantasize about a time long gone as you can see. they talk about not wanting a green card "desperately' or not at all, yet they live on tracking threads. i do not believe their problem is selfishness. it is denial and hypocrisy. but why do you bother? those who show their character as strong and have self respect will succeed in other ways too. those who cower under their aunts and uncles will stay exactly there.
iv has grown and prospered. we have a seat in this discussion. we are talking directly to congress, the administration and uscis. does that guarantee success? nope. but you and me, we sure as hell tried and will always have that with us. and it sure is a great feeling...:cool:
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waitnwatch
05-30 06:34 PM
According to thomas this amendment was ordered to "lie on the table". So there isn't much to celebrate:( :( :(
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01-12 12:09 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum2-retrogression-priority-dates-and-visa-bulletins/773903-cant-we-challenge-the-discriminatory-country-wide-quota-law.html
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smuggymba
03-27 09:37 AM
Ok sir.. I lose you won.. keep porting.
MC - ur date is pretty close and I can understand ur frustration being so close yet so far. Porting is like labor substitution - LEGAL. Nothing we can do.
MC - ur date is pretty close and I can understand ur frustration being so close yet so far. Porting is like labor substitution - LEGAL. Nothing we can do.
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lax999
07-16 12:56 PM
Hi,
I was not able to find a good answer for my question below from the search, so I posting again.
�Is the Service Center processing dates based on Received Date or Notice date on the I 485 Receipt Notice??
�Also I see many times people talking about Receipt Date is it Received date or Notice Date On the I 485 Receipt Notice??
Thanks
LK
I was not able to find a good answer for my question below from the search, so I posting again.
�Is the Service Center processing dates based on Received Date or Notice date on the I 485 Receipt Notice??
�Also I see many times people talking about Receipt Date is it Received date or Notice Date On the I 485 Receipt Notice??
Thanks
LK
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ramus
09-04 01:06 PM
To add to this.. Some will think that something good just going to happen since next year is election.. Not sure what makes them think that..
Some are extremely negative-- They will say doesn't matter what you guys do,nothing will happen.
People just don't want to soil their hands in cleaning their house but want others to do it for them.
Lot of people consider it below dignity to do something about GC related stuff, many just want to live they way they are, no ambitions, no motivation to work towards a change.
Some are extremely negative-- They will say doesn't matter what you guys do,nothing will happen.
People just don't want to soil their hands in cleaning their house but want others to do it for them.
Lot of people consider it below dignity to do something about GC related stuff, many just want to live they way they are, no ambitions, no motivation to work towards a change.
vikki76
03-05 12:28 AM
Let's see if giving them 5K brings more transparency..seems like a good idea about pooling in money
indiandude
10-19 04:15 PM
Hi All,
I am planning to apply for PIO card for my son born in last month. I would like to send the documents to CGO Houston. Can you please suggest what are the documents should I send. I see the information in their website but looks confusing regarding orginals or copies.
Thanks !
I am planning to apply for PIO card for my son born in last month. I would like to send the documents to CGO Houston. Can you please suggest what are the documents should I send. I see the information in their website but looks confusing regarding orginals or copies.
Thanks !
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